As I said Tilly has the same issues. Yes, she was a therapist that say patients in her office but her betazoid abilities aided Picard. Anyway, another Discovery-ism, amongst the many other weird decisions on this show. Episodes will be. If you read what Mary and Sonequa are saying, they arent promoting any particular body style or fitness choice, just that they are as they are and only they have the right to choose how that should be. Yes but Star Trek shouldnt be about lazy writing, poor character development and bad storytelling. STAR TREK and its various marks are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. 2023 CBS Studios Inc./Paramount Pictures Corp. 2006-2023 SciFanatic Network | Legal/Privacy Info, Copyright 2023 | MH Newsdesk by MH Themes, Podcast: All Access Dives Into The Latest Episode Of Picard And Probes Star Treks TV (And Movie) Future, BREAKING: Star Trek: Discovery To Conclude With Season 5, Review: Star Trek: Picard Runs Deep In Seventeen Seconds, Watch Picard And Riker Reverse Their Classic Roles In Star Trek: Picard Episode 303 Clip, J.J. Abrams Talks Compelling Story For Star Trek 4; Chris Pine Expresses Frustration Over Wait. It is not others right to tell someone how their body should be that sort of thing was done with slaves. Even though she's still in the final season of Starfleet Aacademy studies She was assigned to the USS Discovery to get some practical experience. I also know hes basically your favorite Trek author. Ichebs torture on Picard was horrible and the eating ganglia in S1, yikes! And now, with only three years under her belt in the field, only two of which were as a ranked officer, they think shes somehow ready to train the next generation of recruits?! My best advice is to give some of the Litverse books a try and decide for yourself which writers appeal to you. Between 2011 through 2015, she attended Juilliard School's Drama Division, where one of her students was future Star Trek: Discovery actress Mary Chieffo. Jealous and insecure,they can only feel better by putting others down. She is absolutely beautiful just as she is. David Ajala: I would be very dangerous. I LOVE the future! Do I want to be Barclay or Harry Kim? Make it make sense! Ive learned a lot of bad spelling comes from dictating into your smartphone. And another way to look at it: at least its not another hour of tv taken by a reality show, right? I think criticism of the actors is wrong as well, its not about the actors its what they have been told deliver. Since this is a show for kids and its not directly focused on the Voyager characters (at least not yet ;)), obviously I dont really expect any of the bigger plot lines from those books to happen; but it would be cool if the basic idea stuck around and that the Protostar was part of a long term mission of advance starfleet ships heading back to the DQ for study. Book is Han Solo. But dont those characteristics fit better on a younger character, while the older one grows up and changes? Just IMHO, because to each his (or her, or their) own! The 60s/70s are gone. I know Gene Rodenberry never wanted Starfleet to be portrayed as a military outfit, but this has gone so far in the opposite direction that its being run like a pre-school participation awards ceremony. I lovvvve Lilly/Tilly and her curves. Theyre losers, pure and simple. Why does the therapist appear to outrank the CMO? Most actresses on TV, if theyre 58 probably weigh 120# or less. Sorry TM, its MY fault! Why is that a command level position? See more at the Paley Center for Media Arts' Star Trek: Discovery Fight for the Future exhibit in Los Angeles, now through July 7th. Whether you choose to believe it or not, youre actually part of the problem. Key difference in thinking, and it makes all the difference in the big picture! She wears 36D bra size and weighs 147 pounds. Then maybe I would actually remember his name! So many characters, and all were very well developed with interesting stories. That one ship generates more energy than present-day Earths entire human energy expenditure, generates its own artificial gravity, and violates causality routinely. Thats not a leader. Agree. 71 comments so far. One reason why I think people gravitated towards Trip the most on Enterprise was that the combination of writing and performances created one of the most believable humans in Star Trek this side of Dr. McCoy and Chief OBrien. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building.. While Tilly had big dreams in Star Trek: Discovery season 1, she struggled with feelings of inadequacy and was hindered by a social awkwardness that often left her feeling like an outsider. While Im excited to get back to the 32nd century and see whats changed since season 3 Im still not excited for the season itself. That is not anything to diss. I do not endorse body-shaming in any way, as I was bullied as a kid years ago. Her message was not that its okay to be overweight (and shes really not that overweight, nor should it really matter), but simply thats it okay to be her flaws and all. There is also the issue that a crew needing constant therapy sessions while regularly saving the galaxy is not an easy narrative trick to pull off. None of us are and its okay. I like me. No probably not. And thats a healthy outlook. If that scene reflects something she regularly incorporates into her real-life, then I think she will be just fine and she can tell the haters to go pound salt. That way she wont get the appearance she does now of jumping over more experienced officers and seeming to just get ahead because shes Sarus favorite. Tilly appears twice in the Star Trek: Discovery season 5 trailer. After they wrote her to be the most annoying person possible. Weight Gain Explained Rumors are going on that Mary Wiseman is pregnant and she has gained weight. All you ever do on this board is show up and attack womxn for being womxn, LBGTQ+ for being LBGTQ+, people of color for being people of color. I think Mary Wiseman is a fantastic actress..the writing for Tilly is an abomination. Sick and tired of T and A being the main focus. I agree! I agree, in fairness Barclay was relatable in many ways, socially awkward but not too overplayed. She doesnt inspire confidence. There are still things that bother me about the new trek too. The message she is sending how? The laughing, alone, is far more damaging and shameful and disgusting and disrespectful than obesity itself. It doesnt matter either way but with so much Voyager mythology created in those novels, it would be cool to see some of it translated on this show! But I have to say, when they named her Killy, it made the already off-kilter character even more ridiculous. But then again Im not a troll. | November 13, 2021 | There are a lot of people in the comments hating, but in a franchise that includes Neelix, Wesley Crusher, Naomi Wildman, Kes, and Lwaxana Troi, Tilly is frankly nowhere near as annoying as those other characters. We have no information that Beyer consults in this show. . The entire point of Tillys character is that shes a Starfleet officer that doesnt have to be a supermodel like so many Trek characters before: Troi, Seven, TPol, Jadzia perfect golden cut supermodels. By: TrekMovie.com Staff Weve seen Captain Killy, so what does Mirror Universe Book look like? Anyway it was just a thought. No one can be expected to sugarcoat reality for you, and your attitude to people who dont is very indicative that you need someone to help you with that. In every real-life Trekkie community Im a part of, as well as most online, shes loved. After the first two seasons of high pressure I thought I would have seen more growth. And yeah the Full Circle stories do sound a bit depressing especially since SPOILER ALERT they kill off Janeway in them! In CanadaDiscoveryis broadcast on CTV Sci-Fi Channel and streams on Crave. Full Circle is pretty dark in some ways. But Tilly and the nervous mess Adira has devolved into? Nice girl but still jostling with Burnham as the most annoying character on the show. Episodes will be. Sonequa Martin-Green in Unification III, Co-showrunner Michelle Paradise shared some behind-the-scenes photos from Terra Firma, Part 2.. Stupid decision to bring her back. In season three Tilly was first officer and then acting captain; how does all of that affect who she is in season four? Along with this, the biggest thing that Michael aided Tilly with was her confidence. Martin-Green says she has come to accept changes in her body, especially after the birth of her second child shortly before production on season three: With my first pregnancy I bounced back without trying (which is a crime, by the way, that we expect women to do that after birth rather than focus on healing). They should have tried to make Tilly more credible first. It is not OK to be overweight. Internationally, the series is available on Paramount+ in Australia, Latin America and the Nordics, and on Pluto TV in Austria, France, Germany . Something happened to Tilly (Wiseman) and Bryce (Rowe). I agree, the writing, character development, and story telling needs to improve. Im sorry youve had to experience that and I strongly urge you to take what comfort you can from whatever source you can, regardless of how other people feel about that source. Wiseman possess voluptuous hourglass shaped figure. When Mary Wiseman's Lt. Sylvia Tilly left the USS Discovery for a job at the new Starfleet Academy in the fourth episode of season four, it was promised she would be back. And so she will be part of this universe and this world for many years to come. Should the nice girl get off your lawn? Yeah, self absorbed is an excellent way to describe her character, Id never thought of it that way. Fitness may be in the eye of the beholder, as hes commented himself that contempories his age have to hit the head just a bit more often. And to be honest, she never really helped him out all that much. 89. It doesnt look like unhealthy curvy but just different type of genes. To even suggest that is stupidity writ large. And, in that sense, it is okay to be used as it was above. I have nothing against Mary Wiseman. Two Kelpians and a Disco Kenny (Zero Kelpians were harmed during this shoot. I keep reading that no character like hers should not be in starfleet, yet she is. The burden is now on SNWThat show can either make or break it with regards to these issues. Or are you only a troll if you criticize something about Discovery? I'm finding Star Trek Discovery to be incredibly dull and childish. Im sorry if the idea of someone not like Discovery upsets you, but its unreasonable to expect people to change their minds for that reason. I see those things and they hurt me because Im a person. I saw someone just last month asking on a Facebook fanpage if Starfleet had some kind of physical fitness standard and if so, shes violating it, ect.the same old idiotic abusive misogyny disguised as genuine concern. Bad, character pandering types of writing, with over-emotional children in the roles of astronaut-scientist-soldiers. In fact, thats all the Discovery crew is qualified as in the 32nd century. Come on she looks great. To me, at least. Keep up with all the news and reviews from the newStar Trek Universe on TV at TrekMovie.com. It always cracks me up when people say that they hate Tilly. The frequency and level of mockery and hate, very often is targeted to the female actors, for them to behave like women, to behave as woman leaders. Editor's note, 23 Dec 2020: If you like Wiseman's interview here, then you should also check out interviewer Dawn Ennis's other work. Samarkand? But its at least nice they came to their senses with that ridiculous story turn (unlike Kirk). We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Maybe having had to step up to the plate before she was ready I think she intellectually knows that she didnt fail, and that its not her fault that Osyraa took the ship, she didnt have all the information, but I still think the fact that that she took command and somehow lost the ship would be an enormous blow to her confidence and make her question a lot of stuff. Other ships having counselors in the TNG era was mentioned. The character. TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. What was your point to this comment, anyway, except to minimize and dismiss support for plus-size women? I would prefer to finish the rest of Prodigy first season instead. Cant believe some fans complain about character A or B or C. I am sorry, but the obsessive complaining about Sonequa/Michael or Mary/Tilly, for who they are, is so rude. It is also available on Netflix in 190 countries around the world. Mary Wiseman. Ive seen fan-fics with better characters than this.