Absolutely, Ill expect a dress code. Jerry owns the team and can ask his player (s) to have no tattoos. That could be construed to be a health and safety issue, particularly in a contact sport. And to be honest, I seriously doubt many people care what you look like as long as you get the freakin job done. Probably not, but has anybody noticed their piercings or tats? You want no tats or piercings? Just as long as it isnt in the form of a threat or ultimatum. lets review the poll question: Should teams be able to tell players not to get tattoos or piercings? These players are supposed to be professionals and are paid like they are. Chest Football Tattoos 6. Ill be posting some of the most interesting aspects of their discussion right here. I think we are seeing more and more owners stay out of the football side of things. I dont have tattoos or any piercings, and I would like to keep it that way. it makes little sense why Richardson is saying no tattoos or piercings to one guy, but not to others, but oh well. Not a member? Pittsburgh, New England and New York are thought to have the best onwership and those rules dont exist. and second, since when did just having a tat make you immoral for some reason? Some employers even take it a step furtherMy partner is a firefighter, and she had to sign a morals clause as part of her employment contract with the city. Jerry is old school Plain and simple. As a Panthers fan, this is one of the biggest non stories i have ever read on this site. Ronaldo is a great player on and off the pitch and has opted to help humanity. They should call this site OldFogeyTalk instead. (thats a joke) But really, the team is in the south and the culture down here is still not totally ready to be led by a person of color. Where is the option for Yes, but players dont have to follow it. Tattoosshmeh not so much. The winner has been LEAKED, Cristiano Ronaldo scores STUNNING first-half hat trick for Al Nassr as he totals 2 HAT-TRICKS IN 3 GAMES. Giannis Antetokounmpo. Being drafted by a team does not give Cam his only option look at Eli Manning he was not originally drafted by the Giants. And as for the senile comments, hes made more money than the Beatles selling burgers and biscuits. Cam didnt have to sign the contract, and Richardson can run his own business. if the owner is paying the face of a franchise millions and he does not want his franchise player haveing tatoos or pierceing that is cool to me.i worked as a waiter and i had to take my pierceings out and cover my tatoos when i was at work,because i was a represenitive of the restarunt.so if the owner of a million dollar company does not want you to have tats or pierceing than you should not have them. Ryan Leaf has no visible tattoos or piercings, but I wouldnt want him on my team. Get a grip people. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. At least hopefully Cam will show better judgement than Pryor and avoid getting any tattoos on his throwing arm in the 24 hours leading up to a game, that habit really hurt Pryors consistency. Youd think a guy walking around with donated organs pumping through him would not be concerned with such trivial issues. I thought, Oh my God! My mate was in and he felt proper awkward.. They just want the most talented guys. End of story. And Im sure his agent wanted the commission on that money. 3. A bigger issue (in my mind) is that an owner shouldnt be able to selectively enforce any policy on any one employee. Cam: WTF!!!!! Unless Gabbert comes out and says he was told the same thing by Richardson in regards to his appearance, I have a problem with it. He had NO option to play for someone else nor did he have the option of declining the job offer to work for another employer than has a more employee friendly dress code. Web13) Ezequiel Lavezzi, the Jesus and Mary tattooes. In this country we have the freedom to make bad decisions. employees do have rights. . I think its probably aimed at the Look at me persona that a lot of NFL players have adopted. freedomispopular says: I find nothing as silly as when people try to compare playing in the NFL to a regular job.. Also look to the military, sure soldiers, sailors, and airmen get tats, but if they are visible like on the face or hands they are subject to article 15 under the USMJ destruction or harm to Government Property like the individual who could be reduced in rank and subject to discharge. I get it. Show me one NFL player without any tattoos and I will show you 15 that do. If teams want shrink the talent pool they pick from then all the power too them. The fact is that, over the years, Richardson has drafted and signed plenty of players who have tattoos and piercings, including tight end Jeremy Shockey. I think Cam wants to be the next commercial superstar. Thigh Football Tattoos 11. Richardson has every right to tell Newton not to get Tattoos or piercings. There are laws against being singled out like that. There is nothing wrong with the owner telling Cam his preferences with tatoos. There are huge differences, to be sure, but the same laws apply. Most companies have an expectation that their leaders present themselves in a certain way. You should be able to suggest to the face of your franchise that he should keep it toned down and not get to wild in public. Only one of the the top two players in franchise history was inked up and down the arm. Also, I doubt paying customers will care about any of that assuming TDs are being put on the board. Most fans will still come, even if they think the player is not a role model. Learn how your comment data is processed. The Jaguars have had a resurgent season and one of the best defenses in the NFL. You pay me that kind of money, you own me Im yours, sir. Most other teams expect to win. Richardson is just helping Cam be an entertainer and an icon.. to middle aged white people, just like himself. but when its their time (ie: off the clock), they let the arms show. - Newton isnt applying for a job at mcdonalds, he is applying for a seven figure job in one of the highest profile companies in the world. No one can reasonably claim that a tattoo on a players butt affects his appearance. Call it what you want. Joel Embiid. however, picking and choosing who can and cant have these piercings/tatoos is discrimination and can open up a door to issues, potential discrimination law suits. (Peppers) And I think by all accounts hes a model citizen but thats just me. Full disclosure Im a 25 yo white male with a lot of tattoos. Sleeve Football Tattoos 5. Hell, I took my mother-in-law to get her 1st tattoo for her 60th birthday. Its his show. McDonalds can tell me pretty much the same thing. But if Cam wants to go out and get a Tyson tat on his face and a superman style F*ck JR tattoo across his chest, Richardson wouldnt have any grounds to fine him or anything like that He could cut him, but thats the same with any team, piss the owner off and risk getting cut. My job gets done the same whether I have hair like repunzel or Im completely bald, whether I have a collared shirt on or not, whether I have piercings or not, or whether I have tattoos or not. What makes you part of the team is not the draft but the contract that is signed, which most NFL contract do have a morality/ dress code clause look at Plexico Buress and others who violate their teams contracts by doing stupid things. As others have pointed out, the Yankees enforce a dress code for their players. Too funny..All you knuckleheads comparing your company policy on tattoos to the NFL is as flawed as the NFLPA being compared to the UAW. As a citizen in the corporate world, if I wear tattoos, I can rest assured there are jobs I will never be allowed to fill especially if I face the public in any capacity. Cam does not have an issue with it. The NFL has always been known as a league where players can display their personalities in a number of different ways. The kids might like it but adults ie people with money were turned off. So u really want to believe that a QB spends every waking moment studying game films? I think Cam is smart enough to realize his marketing potential if his play lives up to the hype. I dont see what the big deal is. Gareth Bale, however, admits to giving his dad a shock by once wearing magnetic earrings for a family dinner back home in Cardiff. I have also placed him on the mythical collegiate, Mt. Barcelona legend Andreas Iniesta refused to wear tattoos during his footballing career and is one of the few footballers without tattoos. The reason could be that he is still too young for tattoos on his body. NFL players can have as many tattoos as they want, and they do not have to cover them under any rules. If Newton busts, hell be off the team regardless if he has any tats or not. Michael Finley 3. I made that point in another post. However, there is a middle ground..no visible tattoos. They have the ability to quit and do something else just like we all do if they dont like the business they work for. you cant simply tell your female employees to wear low cut shirts for example. Then again, they are probably just like me, wasting time at work, reading and posting on PFT. Peyton sure makes alot of extra money in endorsements. Patriots kicker says he will remove tattoo associated with far-right militia group. but find one company that says if you get a tat youre fired. thats crossing the line. Teams should let players know what they expect form their players, and if the players get tatoos then they should know that their owner frowns on it. A guy who has size, strength and perfectly merges RB talent and elite passing skills. Its his team so he can do so. As it turns out, its standard practice when potentially putting inmates with rival gang ties in the same jail space. Tattoos and piercings say exactly that. The notion that teams would try to make players into non-threatening billboards seems more than a little heavy-handed, even if its done in the name of growing the pie to the benefit of teams and players alike. So without further ado, its time to introduce the could-have-been-good, the bad and the ugly tattoos across the NFL. WebDerek, or Derek Arthur Paggao-Ramsay, was born in Enfield, England on December 7, 1976 to British father Derek Ramsay Sr. See Derek Ramsay full list of movies and tv shows from their career. This is funny. You think you can go into a big firm and score a high paying job while sporting tatoos and peircings? This was a PRE-DRAFT interview. Smith runs second-fastest 40 by DL since 03, Saleh compares Carr to Stafford pre-Rams trade, Allen to be ready to roll for offseason program, How to maximize leverage of No. Cam can choose to bag groceries instead of get paid 30 mil to play a game. However you cant tackle by the shoulder pads and sometimes players get flagged because when they have the hair it LOOKS like the pads. George Steinbrenner had the same rule for Yankees players. I think he has a right to tell the face of his franchise to not look like a disgrace not sure why so many people are taking offense to this. now with that said, i do agree that a no piercings/tatoos policy can hold up. Either way, there is nothing JR can do if Newton goes and gets a dozen tattoos and piercings tomorrow. Bottom line is Hes there to win games and win fans which equals more money for the franchise. Brazilian international David Luiz also said no to having tattoos on his body. He said, No, sir. When big money starts changing hands, companies are more likely to support teams and athletes that represent the type of image the company wishes to present for itself. It isnt illegal for the boss to discriminate against people with tattoos or piercings. If Cam chooses to do something contrary to the owners wishes then Richardson will no doubt calculate it when decided to resign him or not. Sounds negotiable to me. Wow the readers on this sight make me sick sometimes. . The BOSS had certain standards for the Yankees when it came to facial hair. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. It would be one thing if he had a hardline policy where he refused to draft any players who had tatts or piercings. The players are going to fill that lost in their new collective barging agreement. He said, No, sir. In fact, instead of having fancy tattoos, he decides to help humanity. I wondered how I would have felt if one of my back surgeons showed up in his scrubs with arms full of tattoos and lips, nose, cheeks and ears pierced. but to be able to dictate what one chooses to do with his/her body (as long as its not immoral/illegal) as an employer? As for Richardson not wanting Cam to get tats or piercings, its his team and he can request or demand how his players look on the field or in front of the press. you dont get labor protection for discrimination against tats, piercings, smoking, having kids, being a Nazi or any one of a multitude of personal traits. ===================. Do NFL players have to cover their tattoos? The reality is that this is a business and if you turn off your customers, you hurt the profit. Such is life. Its the voice of reason in an age where the game is getting out of control of the owners. The fact is, in todays game, corporate money is where its at. He hired a latino hc, drafted an african american QB, and steve smith adores him(and he hates everybody). Guess again. Lighten up people. ( conservatism reigns)Not unlike the person in the White House, Cam is being rejected for who he is and not what he does. 27 world championships later, maybe they are onto something. People forget that these guys work FOR the owners just like you work FOR your boss. If Jerry wants the face of the Panthers to appear clean-cut, thats his right. I have a problem with the fact that this was even a part of his thought process. However, the players that chose to go there generally are free agents and choose to acquiesce to that rule. By the way does anyone have a problem with Clay Matthews have long hair and tats? And for that I applaud him. My dad walked in and I swear I thought he was going to kill me, said Bale. Richardson presumably wants him to do nothing that would potentially alienate the mainstream paying customers. He thought he had the right to demand to be allowed to represent the company his way; problem is, it wasnt his company. But dont act like Newton had the option to say, Well, I dont care for Mr. Richardsons rules, so Im going to play for whatever NFL team I choose.. WebThe adidas Predator Absolute Gold dropped without warning this morning, November 1st, 2022 on adidas. Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis Im sure a bunch of guys of similar appearance felt it they just sounded reasonable when they fought to maintain slavery and to prevent womens basic rights (like owning property or voting) as well. Read your employee manual lately? There are 31 other that might want to employ me, so its your choice sir! The main reason Ronaldo does not have tattoos is that he donates blood regularly. Pogba is realitypolice says: He doesnt seem to have any issues with the request so Im not sure its even a problem. Maybe their owner should focus more on the talent of the product on the field instead of what they look like. Kante is the only chelsea players without tattoos in our list. The recent fight and shooting at the Raider-Niner game last weekend was a huge red flag. Both of my sister-in-laws kids fathers (dont even get me started) have MULTIPLE face tattoos (they also dont have a GED or a diploma, or a job between them-again, dont get me started). This is pretty standard. Is a tattoo unprofessional? im not sure why the first reaction to all these stories where the league seeks to impose some sort of standard on its players has to be negative. 6 of 19 against the bengals. Terrelle Pryor. Its not about race or slavery or any of that other B.S. There are a number of portraits including of inspirational political figures Barack Obama, Martin Luther King Jr and Malcolm X. OMG So what if he doesnt want his team represented by someone with sleeved up arms and a long hair cut. There are enough teams that dont care about tattoos and piercings that I dont think that will be Newtons issue, assuming he has the make-up to live up to his athletic talent. You meant isnt in the last sentence, phaktor. Now, having found out he doesnt have tattoos or piercings, hes gone up a few notches in my eyes. Operation Sports Forums > Football > Madden NFL Football > Madden Will work with any roster or draft class but doesn't have tattoos for any player without face scan. And thats why theyre the Panthers. It is completely up to the owner how his team looks, just as it is in any business. If Im getting paid millions of dollars to be a high profile leader in a company and represent that company publicly? Obviously this poll isnt important, but other more telling polls show the same thing. This is the NFL. But you cant do EVERYTHING you want. They dont have to work at the establishment. The NFL has punished several players for violating the leagues personal conduct policy, some without criminal charges. The 6-foot-5, 230-pound Johnson was the preseason SEC player of the year in. Just for the record, most old people prefer young people to not have any piercings, tattoos, or ridiculous hair. Thanks for clearing that up, Jerry! And, with that change, youre right. In 2014, tattoos returned with "Madden NFL 15" for just one player: Colin Kaepernick. First I think we need to remember that the NFL is a JOB! Richardson is entitled to cut him, if he likes, but that would be contrary to his interests, if Newton is as good as Richardson thinks. BUT I think im reading into Richardsons intentions the face of the franchise will make both of them money if he is clean of those markings. Its the same deal here. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. most companies will take the angle that you can get em if you want, just dont show em at work, and i think thats fair. and not that cool old school. In the wake of the Aaron Hernandez arrest, some eyebrows were raised at the news that authorities were scanning his vast array of tattoos for evidence of gang connections. Richardson is an idiot. Artwork on his neck, arms and any area that is exposed outside of normal clothing and the uniform should be cool. For someone like Newton, whom Richardson said has athletic ability unlike anything that I have seen in quite a few years, Richardson presumably wants him to do nothing that would potentially alienate the mainstream paying customers. Thats just the way it is. I commend Richardson for saying what is on his mind and being upfront with Cam Newton. . Football player Odell Beckham Jr is one of the most famous wearers of the mohawk burst fade, so take your cues from him if youre looking to try out this bold and attention-grabbing style. Aug 24, 2011 9:30 AM That being said, I dont think tats/piercings are as big of a deal as JR thinks they are. I hate tattos, that being said, if I were Cams friend, I would be advising him to go out and get some ink, ASAP. uncwseahawks25 says: Aug 24, 2011 8:57 AM. Arm Football Tattoos 4. If you show up for an interview looking like a hood you might not get hired. I removed my piercings, because its frowned upon in my profession. Then French young sensation Kylian Mbappe refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. The NFL is trending dangerously close to the path the NBA took years ago and is now the NBA is trying to rebuild its image and fan base. If Cam is a decent guy who wants to be a franchise QB hed probably just not get tatoos and piercings anyways. The hard-earned money comes in the way of corporate sponsorships and advertising dollars. If I want piercings or tats, I can go do something else. Calf Football Tattoos 10. . Newton is entitled to pay attention, or to ignore him, and the CBA doesnt give Richardson any freedom to fine him. Everybody has made good points in this discussion. He seems like an all around great guy. I dont. A policy has to be written and has to apply uniformly to everyone in similar circumstances. Al Davis??? Where is Allen Iverson when you need him?. He held up a photo of Steve Smith and said, Yeah, basically just dont be like this., Just take a look around the league If owners seriously considered only signing players who looked like choir boys they wouldnt even be able to field a team. I guess it is a fair assumption you have never heard of the CFL, UFL or Arena Football League. 1 draft pick, Jerry Richardson to Cam Newton: No tattoos, no piercings, Report: Derek Carr wants $35 million per year, The Raiders are the betting favorites to land Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy: Kellen Moore wants to light the scoreboard up, I want to run the damn ball, ESPN reiterates report that Lamar Jackson wants a fully-guaranteed deal, Arrest warrant issued for Jalen Carter for reckless driving, racing, Aaron Rodgers says hell make a decision soon enough, Competition Committee begins to explore the quarterback push play, Players say Chiefs discourage them from reporting injuries, have NFLs worst training staff, Bryce Young is just over 5-10 and 204 pounds. People always look way too deep into things. Are you guys Fn kidding me? The Liverpool star has decided not to wear any tattoos. People somehow think it is their constitutional right to take a job somewhere and look and do whatever they want because of freewill.incorrect. Its a business and some of those things do alienate fans which is alienating customers. I do not think its unreasonable that he wants a certain image for his franchise. You CAN tackle by the hair. Where is Allen Iverson when you need him? I have to side with Richardson on this one. so if tom brady went out this offseason and got tatted up then got piercings all over his body, the pats wouldnt want him??? Carolina expects its players to look nice. 5. The NBA is just now after 10 years starting to recover. Next in the list is the Egyptian King known as Mo Salah. The Hip Hop culture cost the NBA a lot of money. You can ask them, not tell them. Blanco hit eight homers for the Diamondbacks in just 37 games played last season. I agree that this is both troubling and disturbing to say the least However, I have noticed that this is yet another example of the new corporate mentality that is being allowed to take over this country. I think Jerry Richardson is a boorish, stubborn, old man who was the driving reason/unreason behind the lockout. Richardson is trying to keep Cam Newtons already tainted name from getting anymore questionable. i think a TON of people are missing the point. First of all, there is no race issue here. Angry, by While my personal preference is in alignment with Richardson, I am not ok with the implication that it is a requirement. Who are their critics to say otherwise, nobody? Take Donald Driver for examplehe wears two big earrings and it looks like (from a quick google image search) he has some tattoos on his arms. ============================== You can agree or disagree with Richardson. Whether he wanted to get a tattoo or not he should have stood his ground and said respectfully sir, I dont have any tattoos or piercings, but I alone will decide if I do or I dont. Register now! He grew up during WWII for crying out loud. Obviously there are exceptions to this idea such as Mike Vick but even Vick acknowledged that before his stint in the clink he didnt spend near enough time studying. A player on a team is a product you market with a certain image it wishes to promote and portrayand you want the face of it to be as clean as a whistle. Who Will Win The Premier League Golden Boot For The 2021/22 Season? I disagree with the assertion. if you read the question as stated, then the CLEAR answer should be NO. I see your point and its a good one. Cam liked what he heard, Richardson liked what he saw and heard. Why does a Man feel the need to wear an earring anyway?? The Yankees have a long standing ban on facial hair and long hair, and thats been working all right for them over the years. That is fine. Thanks for clearing that up, Jerry! David Luiz is a devout Catholic like most South Americans and wearing tattoos is prohibited. As we can see, Fitzgerald has no tattoos, which is kind of rare in the NFL. I think theyre stupid looking, but thats just me. I dont want to see a league where guys that have tattoos are only allowed to be on certain teams because the owners deemed tattoos to be bad for business. Please explain how you managed to make this about race, I gotta see this. It is a joke people support such dumb rules to be enforced on someone. Appearing as guests on PBSs Charlie Rose (thanks for the heads up, SportsBusiness Daily), Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Panthers owner Jerry Richardson talked about a variety of issues. Allen Iverson crapped on all of the hard work of Jordan, Bird and Magic. I dont have any. I said, We want to keep it that way. . Your poll question says telling players which is a problem. tats are so common if he held the rest of the team to that rule he would have a lot of roster spots to fill . Tattoos have become more prominent across the league (and in sports in general) in its more recent history, though not all football stars have made smart ink choices. Jerry Richardson wants it to be 1962 forever. As the face of the organization for (presumably, if everything goes well) the next 10+ years, if not for life, you want to roll out a conservative image. You must appeal to your demographic. But he would be smart to play along. Denver Broncos. brientomas says: Aug 24, 2011 5:09 AM He told him he cant have tatoos or piercings! So save all the rediculous comments about athletes being slaves. But it is rediculous to think that people would watch the NFL less if all the players had tattoos and piercings. Comparing this to typical workplaces LOL!!! No long hair, no facial hair, etc, and no one has a problem with that. Wearing tattoos is prohibited in his religion so he is not allowed to wear any. The man who was the first to hire a first ever owner to hire a black man as a HC, the first to ever hire a Hispanic as a HC and the first ever to hire a female executive? If Carolina finishes with better than .500 record, their fans wouldnt care if Queequeg was their QB. Here is a list of popular unblocked games that fall under the WTF category: I Want to Be the Guy A platformer game in which the player must navigate a series of challenging levels and defeat a series of bosses. . It is not unreasonable that owners want them to be non controvertial and risk alienating their fan base. Richardson: Oh yea, by the way no white girls either Cam. Also, I doubt paying customers will care about any of that assuming TDs are being put on the board. They also have the right to have it backfire on them if it turns out nobody really cares if a football player has tattoos, and all this conversation does is plant the seed among other players that maybe this isnt a guy you want to play for. This is kin to Cowherd making his point that Romo needs to take that damn backwards baseball cap off.. Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis. He strongly recommended it stay the way it is. He will not fine or discipline him, but what it will do is strain the relationship between the two. Im not sure why NFL players should be any different. This is so ridiculous. There are 31 other that might want to employ me, so its your choice sir! The most successful franchise in the history of sports: Yankees have been doing that for years. that some of you morons mentioned. Keyonta Muhammad Ansari, 7-May, /post/keyonta-muhammad-ansari/, -118. Sure, they are drafted by a team and therefore obligated to play for them or else harm their chances of playing anywhere at all, but they are not shackled to the deck and forced to scrub the floors. I dont care what why he tries to spin it, those comments were clearly racist.. Manchester Uniteds star midfielder, Paul Pogba refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. ive had many coworkers that have to rock the long sleeves at work to cover up the tats, and theyre cool with that. Though, he usually likes to show off his collection of cars that he has deserved. They want the money too. This is the NFL not Wallstreet. If my QB is spending any time under the needle for a superficial piece of body art instead of studying film or learning every positions responisibility on every single play than he is mismanaging his responsibilities as a professional and I wouldnt trust him as the leader of my franchise. If youre more concerned with your QBs looks than his dedication and hard-work, than that explains why you havent drafted a good one in as long as I can remember. If Cam wishes to get exposed tatoos, its his business, but then doesnt deserve to be rewarded for non-compliance when contract day rolls around. As much as I DESPISE players using the slave term. These JR backers are really excited about being model employees and doing what your boss says.